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Post by BackerDad on Nov 14, 2018 20:02:07 GMT -7
Has anyone heard of the rumors swirling around Goddard? Apparently they played varsity players down at the JV level against district foes. If so, wouldn't that put the players over their game limitations of 10 contests per year? Hearing 5-10 kids should be ineligible. If this were true, what actions should be taken? Would that make their win vs us or their game against Roswell null and void?
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Post by AHS95 on Nov 14, 2018 20:39:06 GMT -7
That’s nuts I wouldn’t think a head coach would make that mistake. Hope it gets cleared up.
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Post by rock9172 on Nov 14, 2018 21:12:57 GMT -7
From what I hear it's going to result in 25 lost scholarships and no bowl games for the next 3 years.
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Post by R231AHS on Nov 14, 2018 21:15:39 GMT -7
Has anyone heard of the rumors swirling around Goddard? Apparently they played varsity players down at the JV level against district foes. If so, wouldn't that put the players over their game limitations of 10 contests per year? Hearing 5-10 kids should be ineligible. If this were true, what actions should be taken? Would that make their win vs us or their game against Roswell null and void? From what I heard it's going to result in 25 lost scholarships and now bowl games for the next 3 years. I think that after GHS swiping the ball a couple years ago, I wouldn’t put anything past them. I think this is a relevant post. I actually think that this was a post on NM Preps a couple weeks back. I also watched the GHS v RHS game and it looked like they were trying to swipe the ball, which is what they did to us a couple years ago.
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Post by bdogfan on Nov 14, 2018 22:17:34 GMT -7
R231 - I agree with you...
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Post by DoggieDog on Nov 15, 2018 20:00:29 GMT -7
I'm sorry but I don't buy this. You can play 6 quarters a week I believe. It still counts as one game a week. Just because varsity players played a JV game doesn't mean you can only play 10 games a season so it means they are ineligible. Our kids do it every week. We have kids play varsity and JV. Doesn't matter if a kid is a starter on varsity. They can play 6 quarters a week and so that means a kid gets to play a game and a half.
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Post by BackerDad on Nov 15, 2018 20:58:51 GMT -7
I'm sorry but I don't buy this. You can play 6 quarters a week I believe. It still counts as one game a week. Just because varsity players played a JV game doesn't mean you can only play 10 games a season so it means they are ineligible. Our kids do it every week. We have kids play varsity and JV. Doesn't matter if a kid is a starter on varsity. They can play 6 quarters a week and so that means a kid gets to play a game and a half. Hearing that they dropped sophomores and juniors from varsity when they played us and Roswell. Looking at their schedule it shows they had an open week the week they played Roswell. That would mean that our varsity game with them would have been game #10 for those kids.
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Post by #31 in the bag on Nov 16, 2018 8:25:53 GMT -7
Are we that scared to play Goddard again that we are looking up old game tapes to see if kids played more than 10 games? If the NMAA found something wrong they would have carried out their punishment before the playoffs start.
Also, people are still crying about the swipe?? Get over it! I think I did notice what looked like Goddard trying to swipe at the end of the Roswell game, but it is probably just the kids with a never quit attitude instead of the coach telling them to do it.
I'd hate to think that we wouldn't get to see who the best team in 5A is this year due to a technicality. It's playoff time. Quit your belly aching, strap 'em up and hit somebody!
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Post by R231AHS on Nov 16, 2018 9:03:17 GMT -7
Are we that scared to play Goddard again that we are looking up old game tapes to see if kids played more than 10 games? If the NMAA found something wrong they would have carried out their punishment before the playoffs start. Also, people are still crying about the swipe?? Get over it! I think I did notice what looked like Goddard trying to swipe at the end of the Roswell game, but it is probably just the kids with a never quit attitude instead of the coach telling them to do it. I'd hate to think that we wouldn't get to see who the best team in 5A is this year due to a technicality. It's playoff time. Quit your belly aching, strap 'em up and hit somebody! It has nothing to do with being scared of playing Goddard again. I think we all know that we had missed opportunities and the only reason they won that game was we had a couple series that our kids simply got out played. IMO, we have a better rounded team and if it comes down to us and Goddard, our boys will be that hungry. However, word I am getting is that Goddard knew they were being investigated and the coach played those kids anyways. I was told that Goddard was "sanctioned", but from it seeming as though nothing happened, my guess is that it was a slap on the hand. I just don't think that is right. As far as the swiping goes - watch the game on KSVP again. I think it's more of an issue than you think, and it looks to me like it is being coached. I'm all about the best team coming out on top regardless. However, how good is a team and a program if they are built on breaking rules. We all know what our boys are taught. I think there is a difference in a "never quit attitude" and what is being taught at the blue school.
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Post by DoggieDog on Nov 16, 2018 11:05:01 GMT -7
I'm not hearing a thing about this. I've talked to a coach at Goddard last night and one of our coaches and they say nothing.
Just FYI back when I played we broke these rules all the time. I was one who played Thursday Nights, Friday nights and Saturday nights. No one could prove a thing back then and no one can prove it today. The biggest question at coaching school when this is talked about is how to monitor this. No one has a clue nor will even look at this. I guarantee you we break the spirit of the law on this too.
The reason there is no urgency on enforcing this is because there is no advantage gained by a school for playing kids extra time in a JV game.
It's nonsemce. With the way people talk today this would have been all over social media.
Again this does not give Goddard an advantage over us or anyone they play. In other words who cares!!!
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Post by bigblue on Nov 16, 2018 11:07:40 GMT -7
Did you hear the one about Roswell high and their fake Nike Uni's that got the VP Fired?
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Post by Niquerep on Nov 16, 2018 12:01:01 GMT -7
Hearing you're full of it. Jv team only played 4 games. Last game was played on Sep. 22 weeks prior to artesia game. Who is feeding you this crap? Some roswell high blowhard?
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Post by Agent Orange on Nov 16, 2018 17:45:30 GMT -7
Kind of feel the same so what if they did? they won those games on the field, don't think it would be right to take that away for that.
Hopefully all 3 teams are around next week, wish somehow we could all play for the state title, like a round robin lol, sell a lot of tickets.
I Heard about the uniforms, that was bizarre.
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Post by BigDaddyCool on Nov 17, 2018 7:05:05 GMT -7
Did you hear the one about Roswell high and their fake Nike Uni's that got the VP Fired? What were the conditions that caused the firing? Can some expand on the topic more?
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Post by bdogfan on Nov 17, 2018 9:58:23 GMT -7
BDC beat Goddard today. I will be rooting for the wildcats
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Post by Dirty South Football on Nov 17, 2018 11:19:01 GMT -7
Did you hear the one about Roswell high and their fake Nike Uni's that got the VP Fired? What were the conditions that caused the firing? Can some expand on the topic more? During Roswell Goddard game Coyotes come out to warm up in their normal red jerseys but when they come out for kickoff they changed into all black uniforms. They looked sharp too. Well it turns out that the uniforms were Under Armour, but Coyotes have a contract with Nike. So Under Armour logos were patched and covered and Nike logos were put on jerseys. Breaking a contract is kind of a big deal and someone found out. So the vp took the punishment even though I’m sure it wasn’t completely on him.
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Post by dairy man on Nov 17, 2018 18:56:27 GMT -7
1st thing how about those rockets bdogfan?
As for the Roswell VP he was also the AD, and he roams the sideline like he's a coach as well. He had to of known all about this, and he should take the fall, no way this should happen on his watch. To make a choice like that is very reckless, hate to see a man lose his job but this is about as dumb of a decision as it gets. You put your job, career and credentials on the line with a choice like that. Not worth it.
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Post by BackerDad on Nov 18, 2018 19:51:13 GMT -7
1st thing how about those rockets bdogfan? As for the Roswell VP he was also the AD, and he roams the sideline like he's a coach as well. He had to of known all about this, and he should take the fall, no way this should happen on his watch. To make a choice like that is very reckless, hate to see a man lose his job but this is about as dumb of a decision as it gets. You put your job, career and credentials on the line with a choice like that. Not worth it. Its amazing how you Goddard fans think. Do you think that your coach put his job, career, and credentials on the line by dropping varsity players for jv? I think so. As you stated, "about as dumb of a decision as it gets" & "not worth it".
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Post by dairy man on Nov 19, 2018 11:37:44 GMT -7
Re-Read the post from DoggieDog on that. If you say we did it then prove it? We can't go on just a claim of suspicion.
Big difference between that and this, one is an actual crime or could be tried for fraud. Your grasping for straws on that I think.
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Post by Niquerep on Nov 19, 2018 22:26:27 GMT -7
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