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Post by Agent Orange on Nov 18, 2019 22:51:07 GMT -7
The Off Season has come, I'll post threads for the Basketball season soon, can continue the football playoffs discussion here. I just don't want to see a bunch of re-hashing of all the comments again about Artesia, I think the sentiment of some feelings out there has been said on here, no need to keep rehashing it. During the football season we try to keep it all about Bulldog football, during the off season I don't mind a start up of different discussions if you want, jokes, funny videos, funny memes, I certainly share a few now and then. Just try to keep it within reason, nothing too over the top. Don't think that's every really been a problem that I recall. Anyways that's that. With that said, wanted to ask about something I heard a few weeks ago. That Mayfield would move down to 5A in football only? I hear re-alignment can take a couple years but that Mayfield is under the threshold and can drop down in football. Anyone else hear this? Mayfield at 1441 kids. Also that Alamo will have to move back up. Just what I've heard, not saying it's the gospel Playoffs this week. 2A Playoffs State Championship #3 Texico @ #1 Eunice 3A Playoffs #5 Tularosa @ #1 Socorro #2 Hope Christian @ #3 Robertson 4A Playoffs #4 Grants @ #1 Bloomfield #2 Portales @ #3 Lovington 5A Playoffs. #5 Deming @ #1 Roswell #2 Los Lunas @ #3 Goddard 6A Playoffs #4 Rio Rancho @ #1 Volcano Vista #2 Clovis @ #3 Cleveland
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Post by Rapid on Nov 19, 2019 7:06:37 GMT -7
The Off Season has come, I'll post threads for the Basketball season soon, can continue the football playoffs discussion here. I just don't want to see a bunch of re-hashing of all the comments again about Artesia, I think the sentiment of some feelings out there has been said on here, no need to keep rehashing it. During the football season we try to keep it all about Bulldog football, during the off season I don't mind a start up of different discussions if you want, jokes, funny videos, funny memes, I certainly share a few now and then. Just try to keep it within reason, nothing too over the top. Don't think that's every really been a problem that I recall. Anyways that's that. With that said, wanted to ask about something I heard a few weeks ago. That Mayfield would move down to 5A in football only? I hear re-alignment can take a couple years but that Mayfield is under the threshold and can drop down in football. Anyone else hear this? Mayfield at 1441 kids. Also that Alamo will have to move back up. Just what I've heard, not saying it's the gospel I hope Mayfield don't move down to 5A Playoffs this week. 2A Playoffs State Championship #3 Texico @ #1 Eunice 3A Playoffs #5 Tularosa @ #1 Socorro #2 Hope Christian @ #3 Robertson 4A Playoffs #4 Grants @ #1 Bloomfield #2 Portales @ #3 Lovington 5A Playoffs. #5 Deming @ #1 Roswell #2 Los Alamos @ #3 Goddard 6A Playoffs #4 Rio Rancho @ #1 Volcano Vista #2 Clovis @ #3 Cleveland Is it #2 Los Lunas vs #3 Goddard
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Post by sevenjrs on Nov 19, 2019 7:56:42 GMT -7
HMMmmm,,,ole Agent is just trying to scare Goddard,,,,,,lol
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Post by Agent Orange on Nov 19, 2019 7:59:22 GMT -7
lol, Los Alamos huh. Yeah I goofed that.
I corrected it.
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Post by BigDaddyCool on Nov 19, 2019 9:19:50 GMT -7
With that said, wanted to ask about something I heard a few weeks ago. That Mayfield would move down to 5A in football only? I hear re-alignment can take a couple years but that Mayfield is under the threshold and can drop down in football. Anyone else hear this? Mayfield at 1441 kids. Also that Alamo will have to move back up. Just what I've heard, not saying it's the gospel I've heard this also for the past couple of years. I know Mayfield's enrollment numbers have been low the past couple of years, at 5A level. I don't think they want to drop down. For one, pride reasons. Second, Mayfield/Las Cruces rivalry game. It would hold more weight having them both a 6A than having one in a higher classification than the other. IMO.... If their numbers continue to drop, I can see them petitioning to play in a higher classification. Again, IMO...
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Post by sevenjrs on Nov 19, 2019 19:14:31 GMT -7
Yeah,,I'm liking how our district lines up now, altho,,with Goddard and Roswell really improving their programs,,and now even Alamo knocking us out,,,I'm thinking we gonna have our hands full next 2-3 years. When you look at how many elgible kids are now playing soccer, I doubt the two platoon can continue to remain here. The two platoon gives you that "status" but does not put your best players where they can contribute to the end result.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 8:23:10 GMT -7
Yeah,,I'm liking how our district lines up now, altho,,with Goddard and Roswell really improving their programs,,and now even Alamo knocking us out,,,I'm thinking we gonna have our hands full next 2-3 years. When you look at how many elgible kids are now playing soccer, I doubt the two platoon can continue to remain here. The two platoon gives you that "status" but does not put your best players where they can contribute to the end result. That's crazy talk.... makes too much sense, that is, if you want to win.....we actually might have to condition and run sprints at the end of practice if we did that. Heaven forbid. We don't even want to use the best kids in key situations. They don't have to start both ways. I guess we are saving them for our rushing game that got a whopping 4 yards against Los Lunas.....cough cough sarcasm. Most Dangerous Phrase: We’ve Always Done It That Way
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Post by bdogfan on Nov 20, 2019 10:39:39 GMT -7
Johntae was excellent on the kicking team and that young student is an excellent football player. He can hit and tackle. It's people like this who need to be a two player.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 10:44:06 GMT -7
Johntae was excellent on the kicking team and that young student is an excellent football player. He can hit and tackle. It's people like this who need to be a two player. AMEN!!! The young man would light people up!!!
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Post by Dog on Nov 20, 2019 10:58:45 GMT -7
Johntae was excellent on the kicking team and that young student is an excellent football player. He can hit and tackle. It's people like this who need to be a two player. AMEN!!! The young man would light people up!!! . Braxton McDonald, who’s mother’s maiden name is Rodriguez and is arguably the best athlete on the field, would light kids up as we’ll if he played on both sides of the ball. They just might have to as to have a chance at winning a blue trophy in their hs career
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Post by Twins23dad on Nov 20, 2019 13:51:36 GMT -7
I totally agree with nobody in that the Phrase "we've always done this way" is DANGEROUS!!! I hear that here in Texas at the school my kids go to and it wears me out....It's simply not realistic. If that were the case, we'd still ride horses to work, school, etc..
in the 70's and 80's teams ran the ball.. wishbone, options offense's. The spread has come along and has the hurry up offense... You have to have leaders who are willing to adapt, take risks, work hard, etc.
I still say that the Administration should look into bringing in former coaches and or former players to help access the situation. Bring in someone like Scott Runyan to bare bones minimum consult the program.
My two cents for afar....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 16:56:20 GMT -7
Besides playing kids both ways or situational both ways... There are some basics that always hold true.
Defense still wins championships...in this day and age of high power offenses, you might not shut people out but you have to find a way to limit them, just like teams did to us. Having the state's top qb or wr doesn't mean jack squat if you finish 5-6.
You have got to be able to run the ball.... period!!! Even if you sling it all over the place, you have got to be able to run the football.
And you have got to have a GREAT off season... you have got to get strong, be the best conditioned, learn how to compete, learn assignments. Off season can't become an inconvenience. We got man handled physically by all 3 teams in our conference.
If you think teams are going to lay down for you because you have won a bunch of state championships, you got another thing coming. This season is a prime example.
** Success is never owned, it's rented, and rent is due everyday!!!
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Post by outlawdog on Nov 21, 2019 8:19:47 GMT -7
With that said, wanted to ask about something I heard a few weeks ago. That Mayfield would move down to 5A in football only? I hear re-alignment can take a couple years but that Mayfield is under the threshold and can drop down in football. Anyone else hear this? Mayfield at 1441 kids. Can someone explain how a school can drop down in one or two sports? the enrollment is a hard number. this should dictate what class they play in period IMO. How can Roswell have enrollment to be in 6A basketball but 5A football, ? is this part of the everyone gets a trophy ideology? my only comment about the Bulldogs,,,,,,, Discipline, Fear and Respect or should I say the lack of it
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Post by bdogfan on Nov 21, 2019 10:14:51 GMT -7
Had not thought of what you said or wrote outlawdog. Good post. Then again I think the NMAA shoots from the hip. They make it up as they go along.
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Post by Twins23dad on Nov 21, 2019 11:57:16 GMT -7
Success I never owned, it's rented, and rent is due everyday.... What a great quote. Nails it!
From afar, i'm thinking "nobody" has been, is, and will continue to be successful.... Maybe he/she should be brought in to consult, coach, etc..
The HS baseball coach where my boys attend HS tells the players a very similar thing. They don't earn or win their positions, they just rent them....and that rent us due before each and every game. BTW, we are a Texas 6A school that has been in the baseball final 4 for 3 straight years and are coming off back to back state championships.
Nobody and our baseball coach are apparently coming from the same school of thought...
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Post by sevenjrs on Nov 21, 2019 18:29:09 GMT -7
I been waiting on someone to bring up how Los Lunas scored most of their points against us,,Every time they had the ball within 5 yards of the goal line,,,,,they would send in "Bruiser",,,,all 274 Lbs of meat and bone. He'd just run over our defensive linemen. His last two TD's,,them Dogs did'nt even try to stop BIG BRUISER. During most of Landry's years at OU, the Sooner DC would send in THEIR Sherman Tank in on short yardage situations at the goal line,,,of all the games I watched,,,the opposing teams never stopped him either...!! Something to think about with the biggest heaviest lineman we got,,,,,
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Post by Agent Orange on Nov 21, 2019 19:05:58 GMT -7
With that said, wanted to ask about something I heard a few weeks ago. That Mayfield would move down to 5A in football only? I hear re-alignment can take a couple years but that Mayfield is under the threshold and can drop down in football. Anyone else hear this? Mayfield at 1441 kids. Can someone explain how a school can drop down in one or two sports? the enrollment is a hard number. this should dictate what class they play in period IMO. How can Roswell have enrollment to be in 6A basketball but 5A football, ? is this part of the everyone gets a trophy ideology? my only comment about the Bulldogs,,,,,,, Discipline, Fear and Respect or should I say the lack of it It's really confusing, I think part of it is there are 6 classifications for football, the other sports there are only 5. I took this from an article Schools with an average attendance of 550-1,299 students are placed into the 4-A classification. In football, that metric is 1000-1449 for the 5-A classification. So Mayfield would fit in 5A the top class for Basketball, Baseball, etc but would fit in 5A for Football, could elect to play down, or petition to stay up I guess, I think it's really up to them, like BDC says prideful program they may just want to stay in the top class, but I think ultimately the choice is theirs I'm assuming.
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Post by crispysdad on Nov 21, 2019 19:20:49 GMT -7
I been waiting on someone to bring up how Los Lunas scored most of their points against us,,Every time they had the ball within 5 yards of the goal line,,,,,they would send in "Bruiser",,,,all 274 Lbs of meat and bone. He'd just run over our defensive linemen. His last two TD's,,them Dogs did'nt even try to stop BIG BRUISER. During most of Landry's years at OU, the Sooner DC would send in THEIR Sherman Tank in on short yardage situations at the goal line,,,of all the games I watched,,,the opposing teams never stopped him either...!! Something to think about with the biggest heaviest lineman we got,,,,, Yeah, they would send in Blake Bell in short yardage situations. Blake Bell was the back-up QB at OU behind Landry......Bell was 6-6 260 and he played his high school football at Bishop Carroll Catholic High School in Wichita, Kansas. Short yardage situations they would send Landry out.....and Blake Bell would come in at QB and run a sneak for 5-10 yards. They called him the Belldozer. He was a bust at QB for OU after Landry left.....but he is still in the NFL as a TE for Kansas City.
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Post by bdogfan on Nov 21, 2019 19:46:45 GMT -7
I think Artesia did that with the quarterbacks. I don't recall their name names however it was under the Cooper regime not too long ago. When Artesia was near the goal line to score, Cooper placed the heavier QB in as QB. Does anyone remember?
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Post by DoggieDog on Nov 21, 2019 20:02:41 GMT -7
With that said, wanted to ask about something I heard a few weeks ago. That Mayfield would move down to 5A in football only? I hear re-alignment can take a couple years but that Mayfield is under the threshold and can drop down in football. Anyone else hear this? Mayfield at 1441 kids. Can someone explain how a school can drop down in one or two sports? the enrollment is a hard number. this should dictate what class they play in period IMO. How can Roswell have enrollment to be in 6A basketball but 5A football, ? is this part of the everyone gets a trophy ideology? my only comment about the Bulldogs,,,,,,, Discipline, Fear and Respect or should I say the lack of it They do this to try and keep the classes as equal as possible. In football you have 6 classes but really even more with 6 man and 8 man leagues. In all other sports the lower classes would have really large numbers of schools in one class so they have to break that up to even it out. So the larger classes get a little squirrly with trying to equal them out. So Roswell High ends up competing in the higher class in non football sports.
They will go back to 6 classes in all sports again next year.
The NMAA is not to blame. They only enforce the laws and rules set forth by the board which is the schools. ADs and Superintendents write the rules and regulations. They decide on redistricting and class enrollments and such. Go to the NMAA website and you can read the minutes of the board meetings. You can see who brings up the rules and regs to vote on. You can see how each member voted. You can go back years. When you look at who votes for what rules and such you will be shocked that 99% of the time it is unanimous. Also schools can appeal a decision. No School has appealed a decision on redistricting. When Clovis and Hobbs were split into 2 districts it was thought they would appeal. They did not.
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