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Post by texasstyle on Dec 6, 2019 15:18:16 GMT -7
It's not Stephen Johnston's fault that the Bulldogs are weak. He tries his best to get those kids in the weight room to do extra work; however, he receives no support from ANYONE else on staff. Other coaches do not value the weight room and don't push kids to get in there for extra work. When Willingham was the DC, he was the offseason coach and he was able to push kids into the weight room to get extra work. Now, the offseason coach doesn't push kids to get extra lifts in the afternoon and is perfectly fine with allowing kids to leave at 3:30. That didn't fly when Willingham was running the offseason program. Also, Stephen Johnston is not the offseason coach. This made me throw up in my mouth a little after reading about the off season program. I know how much work I put in in 97,98,99 to be the best I could be for my team. Even though I played baseball in the spring the morning workouts were brutal and we spent a lot of evenings after baseball practice in that weight room. The mornings and evenings in the summers were pretty crazy too. I hear of all sorts of kids missing workouts in the summers. If we missed in the summers we didn’t play in the fall. On a side note, my 8th grade year I remember walking into the weight room at the bowl and a guy by the name of Danny Jones was leg pressing 1000+ on the sled. Our jaws were dragging the ground. He told us, if you want to win, you better be the strongest in here. That never left my mind. Maybe we need to have an alumni/player function at the field house. Talk some sense in these boys. Great post |
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Post by bdogfan on Dec 6, 2019 16:15:15 GMT -7
If kids don't get into the weight room and get working on the off season then they need to play another sport, like being the best shoe shine boy. Even in basketball you have to develop strength
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Post by dog22 on Dec 7, 2019 8:46:21 GMT -7
I started watching the Cowboys around 76 with Roger the Dodger and my favorite player #41 Charlie Waters then started watching the Dogs a few years later with the likes of Scott Runyan and Sammy Rodriguez. We also worked hard in the offseason for T W Harvey under Butler, Chambers twins, Mahan then Dickerson. It’s been a depressing 13 years year after year watching the Cowboys show up and almost look like their just going through the motions it seems. The current Bulldogs kind of give the same feeling. I hope things change somehow for the better for both teams somehow someway
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Post by bdogfan on Dec 7, 2019 9:28:40 GMT -7
I agree
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Post by sevenjrs on Dec 8, 2019 2:07:41 GMT -7
Well,,to add to this seemingly growing dis-satisfaction with the Artesia football Program,,,I heard a conversation, Saturday morning, between 3 adults whose boys who have been playing since 8th grade that concerns me greatly. The three parents are saying their boys are planning to opt for soccer in 2020 instead of football. Two of the boys were starters this year, and one of the boy's leaving is going to make a lot of people want to cry! Their reason,?? The boys told their parents, "There is no Leadership in the program with everybody just going thru the motions" The boys tell their parents "there are others also" No doubt, there are some that do this every year for whatever reasons,,,but I think those boys are seeing the very same thing that is being discussed here,,!!!
Oftentimes,,we think our children are not aware of the chit we do, or don't do but they do,!! I coached Little league baseball for 13 years, starting with the Pee Wees and I learned pretty quick,,you just cannot pull the wool over them young 7 year old kid's eyes, much less High School Football Players. We may have a problem.
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Post by Ol Red Rooster on Dec 8, 2019 7:08:48 GMT -7
This is not acceptable
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Post by bdogfan on Dec 8, 2019 8:44:43 GMT -7
Oh there's a problem alright. One of them is boys are not motivated as a whole or in general to play for the coach. I read where a former player would run through a wall for his former coach. That former player is still motivated for his coach.
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Post by Charliedog on Dec 9, 2019 9:09:27 GMT -7
My Grandson is a 9th grader at Mansfield Lake Ridge. As soon as season was over all players started off-season. He has a strong off-season weight program. We have a full time strength Coach and just opened a new facility with state of the art weight room for all sports. He will run track but will lift everyday except on track meet days. All Sports at Lake Ridge lift weights all year long and in summer. It is required by ALL HEAD COACHES
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Post by Mr. Pitch on Dec 9, 2019 10:06:48 GMT -7
My Grandson is a 9th grader at Mansfield Lake Ridge. As soon as season was over all players started off-season. He has a strong off-season weight program. We have a full time strength Coach and just opened a new facility with state of the art weight room for all sports. He will run track but will lift everyday except on track meet days. All Sports at Lake Ridge lift weights all year long and in summer. It is required by ALL HEAD COACHES As it should be. |
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Post by olddog73 on Dec 9, 2019 13:23:25 GMT -7
Ok, I'll add my 2 cents. I have not talked to Cooper in a while, and I am making some general comments because I have no first hand knowledge other than the few times I've watched some of the Artesia games on KSVP.
A friend and fellow coach asked me one time what the problem was with a program that had been a very strong force in that particular sport, and had fallen to the wayside.
My comment was, "Institutional Incest". My comment was based on the fact that no new coaching blood or ideas had been introduced to that particular program in years. As a result the program stagnated.
Now before you get the idea that this is criticism of Artesia, think again.
Artesia has been the standard bearer on how to run a football program. Believe me when I say, that I have not seen a program since I left in 2000 that can match Artesia long term success.
Although I have been out of New Mexico for 10 years, I have watched from a far, and it seems to me that this may be what may be happening in Artesia.
I developed a quote especially designed to wake up our kids and coaching staff, especially if I felt that we were either stagnating or thought we were pretty good.
"We are only as good as our last game."
When you see an offensive line stopped cold with no forward movement, a defensive line being blown off the ball, or multiple missed tackles where a running back makes his own yardage, then there is a definite problem, and coaching is the problem.
If I have a player that I put in a position and he can't handle it, it's coaching. A. He shouldn't be there in the first place, or I didn't prepare him well enough to do the job.
That preparation starts in December. You can always make a less talented kid stronger.
I have always had a habit of looking at the legs of football players. When I see players with skinny legs playing D Line, my first thought is 'run at him'.
Artesia has had teams that did not measure up to the standard of excellence. I was on staff when that happened a couple of times. 1986, 1989,1995,2000, etc. Those teams didn't measure up. So what we did was get back in the weightroom and re-emphasize work ethic, unless we were coaching a spring sport, EVERY coach was supervising the offseason program. The head coach was ALWAYS there.
I used that same formula other places as both a head coach and assistant and it always improved our kids. Sounds like the Artesia Staff needs to re-evaluate what they are doing, and get to work.
They do have a pretty good source to tap from sitting in the AD's office. My assumption is that the current Head Coach and Staff have been instructed that this season's performance wasn't good enough, and that changes need to be made.
I know when I was coaching in Artesia and other places, that message was sent.
So Bulldogs, get to work.
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Post by Rick on Dec 9, 2019 14:12:40 GMT -7
Sarge, was that dirt road on school property?
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