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Post by Agent Orange on Feb 15, 2022 13:36:26 GMT -7
Some of you may already know, think it's been out there for a couple weeks. Carlsbad will move on from Gary Bradley as Head Football Coach, new coach is Oliver Soukup, linebacker coach at NMSU. nmstatesports.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/oliver-soukup/962Hard to believe, but after beating us the 1st game of the season last year, Carlsbad only won 2 more games. Somehow made the playoffs to but were eliminated in the 1st round by Volcano Vista 49-17. Man how the fortunes changed after that, we just played an awful game that night, 1st game jitters. Be nice to see Carlsbad in the Bowl 1st game of the season, time to break that win streak they got going  |
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Post by crispysdad on Feb 15, 2022 16:22:03 GMT -7
I would view a move from assistant coach at a D1 program to a high school HC as a step down. Am I wrong? Wonder what's up with that???
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Post by Agent Orange on Feb 15, 2022 18:31:14 GMT -7
Yeah thought the same in a way, looks like he was paid pretty good at NMSU too. But all depends on what you wanna do, want head coach experience? that's a way to get it or prefer the High School game over college. Has 3 boys so consider that too, just a theory of mine no basis whatsoever, but I've thought lynn might move on from roswell back to college once his son graduates. To be able to coach your son, that's priceless but maybe not a factor at all. I've seen no official press release either but heard this is the guy, was good friends with the sports reporter in carlsbad but sadly he passed away, or I would for sure have more info, not even sure they have truly replaced him either. Just thinking about the game with Carlsbad, looking back I think they were the biggest team we faced besides Cleveland. If you were at the game they played a dog whimpering over the loud speaker in the 4th quarter, I wish we could have played again |
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Post by Mr. Pitch on Feb 16, 2022 5:27:22 GMT -7
I would view a move from assistant coach at a D1 program to a high school HC as a step down. Am I wrong? Wonder what's up with that??? Not from NMSU. Moving from NMSU to anywhere is a step up. |
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Post by Rick on Feb 16, 2022 8:09:48 GMT -7
The Carlsbad school district seems to go through head football coaches the same way it goes through superintendents.
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Post by Agent Orange on Feb 16, 2022 9:09:35 GMT -7
nmsu got a new head coach too so maybe that was a factor to leave? don't know just speculating.
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Post by Mr. Pitch on Feb 16, 2022 9:22:39 GMT -7
nmsu got a new head coach too so maybe that was a factor to leave? don't know just speculating. See, now on the flip side, that gentleman almost certainly took a step down. I never heard if they were true or not, don't say I said it was gospel truth. Somewhere along the line it was said that NMSU approached Coach Henderson about the head coaching position and he wasn't interested. Like I said, no clue if this is true, but most of us heard this rumor. |
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Post by Agent Orange on Feb 16, 2022 14:20:13 GMT -7
When UNM came open I saw someone suggest they look at Cooper Henderson, I don't think the college game interest him, especially at this point. Be interesting to know if he was approached by NMSU, last title was leaving the field of dreams in Cruces. I do believe he loves coaching, why he's never truly stepped away, seems to me just observation he was more involved this year than ever, maybe with new coach and he had lot familiarity with the seniors as he coached them all as soph coach.
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Post by dogwarden on Feb 16, 2022 14:48:08 GMT -7
My understanding is the new coach at Carlsbad is a New Mexico product. From Anthony (is what I heard), played for Gadsen then NMSU before starting his coaching career. Family owns land in southern NM.
He may be interested in rooting back home with his family….. who knows.
Not sure what kind of coach he is……. But I can assure you that it doesn’t matter. Until the Rio Rancho schools return to normal NM high school enrollment numbers. No 6A team outside the metro area has a chance at the blue trophy. Even if Vince Lombardi was the coach….
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Post by Agent Orange on Feb 16, 2022 15:44:28 GMT -7
I feel the same about Carlsbad, they've beaten us the last few years but I don't know what it would take to turn that program around, best coach they had and actually took carlsbad to a state game they ran off and he went to Cleveland and won a title lol. A counter point though to Rio Rancho school size, might ruffle some feathers here not my intent but counter point, one thing I heard, this was a few years ago from a good source, Henderson said the Hobbs job was intriguing. What all that meant I don't know. Hobbs is the biggest school in the state, could cooper henderson even win big there?  |
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Post by Rick on Feb 16, 2022 19:43:23 GMT -7
I would be shocked -- shocked!! -- if Hobbs ever built a second high school. Those folks'll never allow the basketball talent to be diluted.
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Post by Mr. Pitch on Feb 17, 2022 4:37:50 GMT -7
I feel the same about Carlsbad, they've beaten us the last few years but I don't know what it would take to turn that program around, best coach they had and actually took carlsbad to a state game they ran off and he went to Cleveland and won a title lol. A counter point though to Rio Rancho school size, might ruffle some feathers here not my intent but counter point, one thing I heard, this was a few years ago from a good source, Henderson said the Hobbs job was intriguing. What all that meant I don't know. Hobbs is the biggest school in the state, could cooper henderson even win big there? Yes, I think if Cooper were willing to go there, spend 2-3 years doing the program tear down-rebuild, Hobbs would be winning in short time and winning a lot. |
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Post by dogwarden on Feb 17, 2022 10:43:27 GMT -7
You won’t get much of argument from me about Coach Henderson- I think he is the best football coach NM has ever seen…. (And possibly the best person)! And there is no doubt Hobbs would be an instant contender.
I also agree Hobbs will NOT build another school. I have friends in current administration and from previous administrations. It has been discussed and will never happen.
People/coaches like Coach Henderson are a rare breed. Many have and will continue to duplicate his program- but the copy is never like the original. NM has had the privilege of witnessing a few who are masters of their craft Tasker/Hobbs, Henderson/Artesia and what Stinson has done and is doing (again) for Aztec wrestling, is nothing short of miraculous!!
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Post by Agent Orange on Feb 17, 2022 11:30:57 GMT -7
I would be shocked -- shocked!! -- if Hobbs ever built a second high school. Those folks'll never allow the basketball talent to be diluted. Couldn't agree more. That's part of my argument, the basketball talent. Most those guys don't play football at HS level. I think to turn it all the way around it would take more than just a coach, got to have the fans, the kids, everyone around buy in, it all starts with the coach though. I think they got good current staff, ex Artesia guys too haven't been there long, see what they can do given some time. Their current basketball guys are monsters, I've seen them compete for a awhile, gotten our butts handed to us a time or two by them as well lol, I know a few of them would be absolute studs on the football field. I think that's where the intrigue comes from, lot of resources there, but I've always seen Hobbs as basketball town, Carlsbad Baseball, as we are Football, what could ever change that ? It would take an act of God or maybe Cooper Henderson |
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Post by bigtasty on Feb 19, 2022 10:32:33 GMT -7
He’s a good guy, I think he’ll put together a really good staff and try and compete with the big boys. Question is, as always, can they? They have athletes, always do. Just need to put it all together, kinda like Hobbs.
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Post by Mr. Pitch on Feb 21, 2022 10:07:28 GMT -7
nmsu got a new head coach too so maybe that was a factor to leave? don't know just speculating. See, now on the flip side, that gentleman almost certainly took a step down. I never heard if they were true or not, don't say I said it was gospel truth. Somewhere along the line it was said that NMSU approached Coach Henderson about the head coaching position and he wasn't interested. Like I said, no clue if this is true, but most of us heard this rumor. I guess I should qualify this whole deal with, as far as I'm concerned, a job in Carlsbad is a step down from anywhere. Because, well... it's Carlsbad. As many of you know, I grew up in a house where the mentioning of that name indoors was sacrilegious. You did not say anything other than, "that town south of us." I am my parents son. |
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Post by dogwarden on Feb 21, 2022 12:39:41 GMT -7
See, now on the flip side, that gentleman almost certainly took a step down. I never heard if they were true or not, don't say I said it was gospel truth. Somewhere along the line it was said that NMSU approached Coach Henderson about the head coaching position and he wasn't interested. Like I said, no clue if this is true, but most of us heard this rumor. I guess I should qualify this whole deal with, as far as I'm concerned, a job in Carlsbad is a step down from anywhere. Because, well... it's Carlsbad. As many of you know, I grew up in a house where the mentioning of that name indoors was sacrilegious. You did not say anything other than, "that town south of us." I am my parents son. That is funny you say that. I’m a “move in”- and from my perspective I see the rivalry taken much more serious in “that town down south!” Sure Artesia fans want to win, but not nearly like Carlsbad. Carlsbad hates Artesia….. Bradley could have coached the Cavemen forever, his job wasn’t in jeopardy- because he beats Artesia (4 yrs in a row). Right now in their field house is a clock counting down the days to the Artesia game. Go to the Elks, and talk with the old timers…. It is literally the only game of the season they care about. Watch the players and coaches in celebration after their recent victories….. I’m telling you that game is much more important to them!! Getting to know Artesians over the years- it seems Goddard is the Bulldogs most disliked foe. Carlsbad is just an afterthought……. I always chalked it up to, Artesia has bigger goals every year. Blue trophies are more important than County bragging rights!! |
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Post by Mr. Pitch on Feb 21, 2022 14:08:32 GMT -7
I guess I should qualify this whole deal with, as far as I'm concerned, a job in Carlsbad is a step down from anywhere. Because, well... it's Carlsbad. As many of you know, I grew up in a house where the mentioning of that name indoors was sacrilegious. You did not say anything other than, "that town south of us." I am my parents son. That is funny you say that. I’m a “move in”- and from my perspective I see the rivalry taken much more serious in “that town down south!” Sure Artesia fans want to win, but not nearly like Carlsbad. Carlsbad hates Artesia….. Bradley could have coached the Cavemen forever, his job wasn’t in jeopardy- because he beats Artesia (4 yrs in a row). Right now in their field house is a clock counting down the days to the Artesia game. Go to the Elks, and talk with the old timers…. It is literally the only game of the season they care about. Watch the players and coaches in celebration after their recent victories….. I’m telling you that game is much more important to them!! Getting to know Artesians over the years- it seems Goddard is the Bulldogs most disliked foe. Carlsbad is just an afterthought……. I always chalked it up to, Artesia has bigger goals every year. Blue trophies are more important than County bragging rights!! Maybe so. Maybe so. I've been gone for 30 years, but if you talk to the right AHS alums, they will say that team down south |
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Post by titletown30 on Feb 21, 2022 22:06:25 GMT -7
I’m with Mr. Pitch growing up in Artesia and playing for the BULLDOGS you beat Carlsbad every chance you get! Well that is what the coaches always told us!! I hate ‘that town south of here” and I just dislike everyone else lol what can I say born and bred a Bulldog
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Post by olddog on Feb 22, 2022 10:48:30 GMT -7
I learned dislike for Carlsbad at an early age. One of my brother in laws who played for the Bulldogs graduated in 1950. On occasion he would say he was going home to flush the toilet so people in Carlsbad could get a drink of water. 😃
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