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Post by Agent Orange on Oct 16, 2022 12:35:34 GMT -7
2022 Artesia-Goddard Game History The first game was played in 1965 against the new Goddard High School which the Bulldogs won 61-0. Artesia had a lot of early success against Goddard going 16-0-1 before the Rockets won their first game against the Bulldogs in 1986. This is the 34th year that the two teams have been in the same district: 1965-1966, 1973, 1983-1991 and 2000-2022. Since 2000, the teams have been evenly matched in district play with Artesia having a 11-10 record. When playoff games are included, the Bulldogs have a 15-13 record in the same time frame. The Bulldogs won the 2007 State Championship against Goddard, but the Bulldogs are only 6-12 against the Rockets since then. After Goddard's first win in 1986, Artesia has a 22-21 record against the Rockets. The teams have met seven times in the playoffs with Artesia having a 4-3 record. Artesia has won two State Championships against Goddard winning in 2006 and 2007. They lost the 1991 State Championship to the Rockets. Overall Record Artesia: 38 wins, 21 losses, 1 tie
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Post by Agent Orange on Oct 16, 2022 12:38:47 GMT -7
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Post by dadof4 on Oct 16, 2022 14:00:42 GMT -7
This should be another good game, Goddard always plays us tough and we seem to have an issue stopping their run. Hopefully a better officiated game than the last time we played up in Roswell.
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Post by Agent Orange on Oct 16, 2022 14:45:28 GMT -7
Stranger things happen to us in the wool bowl, must be the cosmic powers over there New #1
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Post by Agent Orange on Oct 16, 2022 14:52:13 GMT -7
And how does this poll make sense when Roswell beaten PV head to head?
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Post by dadof4 on Oct 16, 2022 15:24:05 GMT -7
Makes no sense how PV is ranked higher than Roswell
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Post by Agent Orange on Oct 16, 2022 15:40:32 GMT -7
When the albq guy agrees with you too, you know it’s bad lol.
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Post by olddog on Oct 16, 2022 16:25:36 GMT -7
When the albq guy agrees with you too, you know it’s bad lol. Stranger things happen to us in the wool bowl, must be the cosmic powers over there New #1 Found this on the web. Video explains their process. “Computer Rankings MaxPreps does not poll coaches, sportswriters or fans. Nor does our staff make any judgments on the merits of any individual team. Prior season history, school size and comments on message boards are not considered in the MaxPreps Computer Rankings.” www.maxpreps.com/m/news/X4MCEfnBEeC-rAAmVebEWg/how-the-maxpreps-rankings-work.htm
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Post by BigDaddyCool on Oct 16, 2022 19:08:37 GMT -7
And how does this poll make sense when Roswell beaten PV head to head? NMAA will recognize this when seeding selection begin. Can't leave everything up to a computer program. Some human logic will intervin.
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Post by Agent Orange on Oct 16, 2022 20:08:57 GMT -7
And how does this poll make sense when Roswell beaten PV head to head? NMAA will recognize this when seeding selection begin. Can't leave everything up to a computer program. Some human logic will intervin. I figure the same. But if the poll is computing that there is something off. The old garbage in = garbage out if you’ve ever heard that in computer class they use to teach that. The math has got to be off or tweaked. I’m shocked we are #1 honestly the way this thing works from being #3 Fix it or get rid of it. My 2 cents.
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Post by dogwarden on Oct 16, 2022 20:33:04 GMT -7
And how does this poll make sense when Roswell beaten PV head to head? NMAA will recognize this when seeding selection begin. Can't leave everything up to a computer program. Some human logic will intervin. Question? Obviously the coaches poll will reflect more accurately. But will MaxPreps adjust in the next two weeks with Roswell’s SOS only getting stronger, while PV’s will continue to get weaker?
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Post by BigDaddyCool on Oct 17, 2022 7:52:42 GMT -7
NMAA will recognize this when seeding selection begin. Can't leave everything up to a computer program. Some human logic will intervin. Question? Obviously the coaches poll will reflect more accurately. But will MaxPreps adjust in the next two weeks with Roswell’s SOS only getting stronger, while PV’s will continue to get weaker? I don't see it being a factor. It comes down to how each team in your district finishes. PV will be ranked above Goddard, but not ahead of Roswell. Don't see Mayfield upsetting anyone and will finish 4th in the district and at the #5 in the seedings.
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Post by Agent Orange on Oct 17, 2022 17:32:48 GMT -7
There was a guy on Twitter Coach Montoya, don't know him. He said the PV game with Durango is what's throwing it off.
Which perhaps I could see that. Durango 6-1 a Colorado 3A team though. He said Maxpreps gave them them the same points for that game that Cleveland got for beating Amarillo.
Like that post above from old dog, school size doesn't matter? Someone said Maxpreps bought the old College BCS Computers ha ha.
Hey you win and nothing else matters but I'm just curious how this thing works. It's always seemed a little off to me.
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Post by Agent Orange on Oct 17, 2022 17:39:53 GMT -7
Look at that program cover, my good friend has that. I can’t remember if a local guy made that or not, I want to say yes. I’ll have to ask him again. I love that picture.
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Post by BigDaddyCool on Oct 17, 2022 18:52:32 GMT -7
Look at that program cover, my good friend has that. I can’t remember if a local guy made that or not, I want to say yes. I’ll have to ask him again. I love that picture. Nice. Takes me back to the early to mid 80's when my dad would take me to the games and buy me a program for what seemed like alot at the time. 50 cents I believe
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Post by Agent Orange on Oct 17, 2022 19:02:29 GMT -7
Yes sir BDC. My friend said it could have been the work of Lon Keller www.lonkeller.com/ he made HS Football programs for over 30 years. He said that program cover was used for 3 games in a row. Just a neat classic football cover.
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Post by Agent Orange on Oct 18, 2022 10:58:23 GMT -7
Little shocked by this one.
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Post by dadof4 on Oct 18, 2022 11:49:52 GMT -7
I’m thinking that #1 and #3 is the same side of the bracket and #2 and #4 in the opposite. Artesia and Roswell the top two teams in 5A and they don’t want a all South championship game. Artesia or Roswell to win one side and PV to win the other?
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Post by BigDaddyCool on Oct 18, 2022 12:23:12 GMT -7
I’m thinking that #1 and #3 is the same side of the bracket and #2 and #4 in the opposite. Artesia and Roswell the top two teams in 5A and they don’t want a all South championship game. Artesia or Roswell to win one side and PV to win the other? Looks like the legalization of marijuana has "clouded" the thought process of some coaches. It's obvious that Roswell is #2. They have beaten PV already. PV should be #3, the Goddard at #4 with Mayfield at #5. Of course, those two spots could change at the end of the week.
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Post by Agent Orange on Oct 18, 2022 12:39:07 GMT -7
I’m thinking that #1 and #3 is the same side of the bracket and #2 and #4 in the opposite. Artesia and Roswell the top two teams in 5A and they don’t want a all South championship game. Artesia or Roswell to win one side and PV to win the other? Looks like the legalization of marijuana has "clouded" the thought process of some coaches. It's obvious that Roswell is #2. They have beaten PV already. PV should be #3, the Goddard at #4 with Mayfield at #5. Of course, those two spots could change at the end of the week. lol omg, that's a good one. #1 and #4 are on the same side of the bracket. #2 and #3 are on the other side. Wouldn't be a big deal to us really if we stay at #1. Could be a big deal for Roswell though, not sure of their playoff history between them and PV but if no history then the higher seed host, I'd much rather be at home than a trip to the 4 corners. I think us getting #4 was beneficial last year as mayfield had to come to Artesia being the #5 seed. They were a tough out, I'd say they were the next best team to us and Los Lunas. Sure nice to play them at home, we have our own vodoo at Bulldog Bowl over opponents a lot of times.
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