Internet Streaming Of Bulldog Football Games

[dognation]

It was very difficult for me to start this topic! Mainly because I don't want to step on any toes, Proview, KSVP, or whoever! I want to start out by saying that I really do appreciate the internet stream, because it makes it possible for those who live out of town, out of state, AND out of the COUNTRY to watch Bulldog football games online. If not for the internet feed then those people would be left out in the cold.

But, I was looking at the pics of last night's game that Rapid posted and one thing really struck me. Just by looking at Rapid's pics it is apparent that attendance is really suffering. I think we probably know the reason for this.

Having said that, I will be the first to admit that I am among the guilty. That is not a fact that I am proud of, believe me! Up until just last year I had not missed a Bulldog home game it probably 10-12 years. Last year I only went to 2 home games. Before that I had been to every single Bulldog home game since probably 1998 or so. But I discovered that it is just so much easier to sit in my living room and watch the Bulldogs on my computer. And I must say that the quality of the internet stream is impeccable for the most part. It's like sitting home and watching the Dallas Cowboys on the tube. The bottom line is that the internet stream has made me very lazy, once again not something that I am proud of.

And I know for a fact that I am not the only one. I have talked to many Bulldog fans, and trust me I know a lot of them having lived here for almost 50 years, and they pretty much tell me the same thing. They are opting to stay at home and watch the games online. Oh, I mentioned that last year I only went to 2 home games. Well, guess how many home games I went to THIS year. The answer is ZERO! Oh, I saw most of the Bulldog home games, just not at the stadium. And yes, I still live right here in Artesia. In fact, I can walk from my house to Bulldog Bowl in about 20 minutes.

So is it KSVP's fault that I have not been going to games at Bulldog Bowl recently? Hardly! I would place the blame on that at 10% internet stream, and 90% of the blame goes on me! I guess last year it was actually 4 games if you include the playoffs and the title game against Aztec. But ZERO games at Bulldog Bowl for me THIS year. Again, not the radio station's (or proview's) fault. That is all on me! The provider of the game stream is only an "enabler"!

The games that I DID attend last year I noticed that the attendance was horrible. Nothing like it was just a few years ago!

Not trying to blame the providers of the feed for my laziness, or for the laziness of anybody else, but I think it may be time to ask some serious questions. Are there any other options out there? Maybe black out the stream to local internet users while still providing it to out of town users? Maybe stream only the out of town games? I don't know if that is even possible, just asking. But I do know one thing, I am making a vow to myself starting NEXT year that I am going to get up out of my computer chair and actually GO to Bulldog Bowl for home games. What really makes me SAD is to think about how much I looked forward to football season this year, and then when it got here I didn't even go to a single game! But even if I start going to the games again, how many others will do the same? Maybe it's time to start considering some alternatives. I don't know if G.D. at KSVP reads this forum, but if he does I would just like to say that I for one appreciate all that he does! He has helped bring
Bulldog football to the WORLD! Just as you have Randall! It's just that I think it may be time for some changes. And I DO intend to make it to more games next year......if I live that long, lol. Thanks for letting me vent!

[jayster1]

Wow this is really sad. The kids notice the stands half empty/full. That should be motivation enough to go support the kids. The stream is nice for out of town people and those that can't make it for other reasons other than laziness. I'm glad you are having a change of heart and we'll welcome you back next season!!!

[BGP]

I am glad someone brought this up again! Attendance has been horrible, and the ones that do go are not near as loud as we once were! I saw some players trying to get the crowd to make some noise last night. Those boys hear that down on the field and they get pumped up when we get noisy and behind them, I can hear the players on sidelines more than I can hear fans! I have not missed a home game, for a long time (at least 15 years) even though I should have been home in bed last night because I am sick and about froze deer hunting last few days.
I just hope that EVERYONE can make it to Roswell Fri. or Sat. to make some noise because the Bulldogs will need as much help as they can get, Goddard hasn't forgotten last year!
I will also be first to admit that I NEVER expected this team to make it through district, much less this far into season (almost like last year) but I am VERY glad they are proving me wrong!

GO BULLDOGS!!!!! BEAT GODDARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dognation]

Thanks guys! This has been eating at me for the past couple of years. I ALMOST have tears streaming down my face as I type this, but not quite. I think you know where I am coming from. Just wanted to get this off my chest! And I do promise to do better next year. Life is too short to do otherwise.

[Charliedog]

Just looked at the pics and it is shameful. Have the fans forgot that they are part of the three legged stool of Championships
PLAYERS AND COACHES make one leg
BULLDOG BOWL makes the second leg
A FULL STADIUM OF RAVING MAD DOG FANS makes the third leg

This makes the formula for 27 titles. Time for someone to get on the radio and the newspaper and remind everyone they have their part to do as much as the players and Coaches

[Agent Orange]

The biggest misconception on the internet and other football boards is that bulldog bowl is always packed every friday and there is a sea of orange, not hardly.

It's not just this year, it's been that way for the last several years I think, unless it's a big game like artesia vs goddard or carlsbad it just seems like the crowd isn't as big.

I'm not sure how much the internet stream affects attendance, I'm sure it does some but probably only ksvp would know the exact number of people logging on to their stream. There would be ways to block local users, but that would take local internet providers and others to come together and do it, would be a pain but anything is possible in this day and age especially with technology.

[Agent Orange]

Side note.

Did you see how many kids los lunas had dressed out? definitely had more than us. We've always had the numbers but not this year. Hope that trend doesn't continue.

Bottom line, need to get out to the games and get the kids out to the games too, that's where it all starts as they will be the future of the program.

[BGP]

Too bad they can't block the "able bodied" people from internet! Honestly I thought that they wouldn't be able to show the playoff games anyway, but it HAS affected gate sales, heard that @ QB Club meeting.

[bdogfan]

Can they block the home games out on the 'net?

[jayster1]

What about out of town folks. I'd hate to block out of town viewers for home games.

[bdogfan]

There are a lot of bulldog fans who live in Texas as well as other states. There's also we who live up north who go to bulldog games, I can only speak for myself, but when the football team is in ABQ area, I'm there cheering them on. I enjoy watching them on stream line but I can listen on KSVP like I did when they played Roswell just as I will when they play Goddard this week. I will watch it if its on proview stream but I'm satisfied with audio. Anyway go 'dogs beat Goddard, so I can go to the game if you play in Valencia or Aztec.

[bigkdad]

I really think it has more to do with a 5-5 regular season. We have some fair weather fans. Last week it was the Navajo Christmas party. We also have 4 new suites in the press box that have about 40 seats each. Not saying that attendance is not down and the video stream may be hurting attendance some but it probably is not as big a factor as we think.It sure is nice for out of town family and for when we can't go to an out of town game. Hope they don't take it away.

[bdogfan]

You may right about fair weather fans and the 5-5 record, but if I could I would be there at each game. Sometimes I still travel to Artesia from RR to see a game, but emphasis on somtimes. Go 'dog beat Goddard.

[Agent Orange]

Nov 20, 2011 19:25:50 GMT -7 bigkdad said:

I really think it has more to do with a 5-5 regular season. We have some fair weather fans. Last week it was the Navajo Christmas party. We also have 4 new suites in the press box that have about 40 seats each. Not saying that attendance is not down and the video stream may be hurting attendance some but it probably is not as big a factor as we think.It sure is nice for out of town family and for when we can't go to an out of town game. Hope they don't take it away.

I agree with that too, fair weather fans and there are plenty of them. It amazes me of some who want to throw in the towel on the season as soon as things get tough, sure things may not look great at times but you gotta ride the lows as well as the highs.

Thank god the kids and coaches don't have that attitude or they would have folded about mid season.

[GoDogs]

Nov 20, 2011 21:26:51 GMT -7 Agent Orange said:

Nov 20, 2011 19:25:50 GMT -7 bigkdad said:

I really think it has more to do with a 5-5 regular season. We have some fair weather fans. Last week it was the Navajo Christmas party. We also have 4 new suites in the press box that have about 40 seats each. Not saying that attendance is not down and the video stream may be hurting attendance some but it probably is not as big a factor as we think.It sure is nice for out of town family and for when we can't go to an out of town game. Hope they don't take it away.

I agree with that too, fair weather fans and there are plenty of them. It amazes me of some who want to throw in the towel on the season as soon as things get tough, sure things may not look great at times but you gotta ride the lows as well as the highs.

Thank god the kids and coaches don't have that attitude or they would have folded about mid season.

It was also deer season, was it not? However, I think there are more fair-weather fans than there used to be. Sorta reflects the mindset everywhere nowadays. Like smack talk … I will NEVER understand smack talk. I think it at least borders on poor sportsmanship and most of the time crosses the line. I still believe humble is the best way to be. I know, I'm an old F**t, but that doesn't necessarily make me wrong.

Now that I'm in my “dotage,” I just don't get out much. I do, however, listen/watch all games that are available on radio or internet in all sports. I'm still a fan and a supporter but it is hard for me to attend the games. Maybe there are more fans like me who used to go but find it difficult nowadays.

[nmbarkingspider]

heard it rained in Roswell too so its going to only be in the mid-40s. the NMAA made sure they get their gate $ by matching up the Dogs and Goddard on the same side of the bracket. $8 ticket price per person! even more of a reason to stay home and watch or listen on-line or on the radio

[bdogfan]

I don't think it is going to be streamed, just radio and I will be listening, unfortunately I will not be able to attend.

[Erik]

I'll be attending! I don't blame the internet stream...it's the PEOPLE! They are the ones that make the decision to go or not.