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Post by Big Dog on Nov 19, 2011 23:31:04 GMT -7
It doesn't matter now. The OU defense is stinkin' horrible. It has been really suspect all year. The secondary is just awful. That game tonight made me physically ill.
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Post by Agent Orange on Nov 20, 2011 7:40:54 GMT -7
A few teams blew it this weekend OSU, OU, and Oregon.
As much as I don't want to see it again, if LSU and Alabama take care of business the rest of the way I think they should play again for the national title.
Hopefully OU is still in the running for a BCS Bowl game.
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Post by Mr. Pitch on Nov 20, 2011 7:45:39 GMT -7
Right on Big Dog, Not sure its all on the secondary. "RGIII", (now that makes me ill), had all day, and night, and breakfast the next morning to throw the ball.
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Post by Rapid on Nov 20, 2011 7:51:52 GMT -7
Did ya football team make the playoffs.
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Post by dognation on Nov 20, 2011 8:17:13 GMT -7
I started a new topic last night right after the game. Mainly complaining about Sooner "fans" on other boards hating and ripping on Landry after last night's game. My post was rather heated to say the least and in questionable taste. I took it down after about 20 minutes or so. Thought better of it and deleted it. I just want to apologize to the 5 or so people who saw it before I zapped it.
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Post by Charliedog on Nov 20, 2011 9:44:55 GMT -7
A famous Artesia Coach by the name of TW Harvey always use to say the best pass Defense is when you are Choking the QB
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Post by TexasOil on Nov 20, 2011 11:33:05 GMT -7
Just saw where OU's defense is statistically one of the worst it has had in years...They have given up 40 points twice this year and have also given up 500 yards passing twice....
Two observations from being in Waco at the game last night: 1. OU's secondary was lost most of the game, not even within 5-10 yards of recievers at times. 2. Dear Mr. Stoops: Have you ever heard of a two deep zone to stop the over the top passing game? May want to watch film of Monte Kiffin's USC defense.
Lastly, for anyone to blame this on Landry need to observe a couple of other things: 1. His completion percentage and yards passing were outstanding... The offense scored 35 points on the road against a fairly strong defense. 2. Last I checked, Landry doesn't play secondary for OU, he is the QB and a darn good one!!
From what I saw, the offense wasn't the issue... An unprepared defense was what I saw.
Charliedog, what Stoops could use right now is you coaching his secondary and Mr. Pitch co-ordinating the defense.
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Post by Agent Orange on Nov 20, 2011 12:27:00 GMT -7
The call to go for 2 at the end seemed very risky with blake bell in at QB, yes it worked 4 times last night but sure looked like baylor was going to be ready for him to come up the middle and stuff him. Then the penalty came and they had to kick it but I didn't feel good about them going for it.
Then the late timeout by OU as well before the game winning TD came.
questionable calls I thought, but it's always easy to second guess after the fact.
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Post by GoDogs on Nov 20, 2011 13:20:44 GMT -7
I second TexasOil's opinion. I'm sick for Landry but this does pretty much show that OU is not ready for a championship game. I hope they can pull out the rest of the season on a high note.
It's funny that so many people want to put the blame on Landry alone. Even Sam Bradford was unable to block for himself or catch his own passes.
As far as LSU and Alabama in a rematch for the title, it's not for me. Alabama already had their chance and not only couldn't win at home but were really boring doing it. I love defense. I love slobberknocker ball, but I want a little offense thrown in there too. With only defense, it's like having turkey but no dressing. Blah! I think Oregon would have been able to at least score on them some. I won't bother watching another Alabama-LSU game.
I hate to admit it, but this is one year I'm actually ready for football to be over.
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Post by Big Dog on Nov 20, 2011 18:43:22 GMT -7
I'd really like to see OU whip Oklahoma State just so they don't get to thinking they are top dogs in the state. A win over OSU would still salvage the season for me. I'm also of the opinion that Landry will stay for his senior season. He will put all of the Sooner records completely out of reach. So proud to say he is a Bulldog and a Sooner.
I really hate it that Broyles didn't get to finish his senior season.
I hope they can recruit some defensive backs this off season. The way football has changed to a pass first game, you have to have a boat load of good cover guys.
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Post by BGP on Nov 20, 2011 21:46:15 GMT -7
Go Dogs, Bulldogs have 2 more games before season is over! LOL
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Post by bdogfan on Nov 20, 2011 21:56:30 GMT -7
I don't think the OU offense lost the game. I watched it and thought the defense made alot of mistakes. You got to give credit to Baylor's QB, he's good and out smarted the defense. By the same token, I think if the Bulldogs play smart on all three sides of the ball especially the defense and slow down Anaya, the 'dogs have a good chance and going to state.
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Post by nmsooner80 on Nov 21, 2011 10:22:39 GMT -7
(from Berry Tramel's blog at the OKC newspaper)
OU football: Landry Jones the forgotten man Posted by berrytramel on November 21, 2011M at 9:30 am
John Elway was at Floyd Casey Stadium on Saturday night. The Denver Bronco executive vice president — and the best quarterback God ever made — was scouting the OU-Baylor game. Elway saw quite a quarterback show.
Robert Griffin wrote one of the greatest scripts in Baylor football history with his dazzling performance against the Sooners. Griffin also kept Landry Jones from enjoying what could have been one of the best nights in OU quarterbacking history.
Few OU QBs have engineered a rally the way Jones did Saturday night. The Sooners trailed 38-24 after Baylor scored with 12:49 left in the game. Jones drove the Sooners into Baylor territory, but on 4th-and-11 from the Bear 25-yard line, Jones’ desperation pass sailed way over well-covered Jaz Reynolds’ head in the end zone. Just 9:45 remained, and the Sooners looked dead.
But OU’s defense got a quick stop, Baylor punted and Jones returned to the field with 8:27 left. He was superb the rest of the game. On the next two series, Jones completed nine of 11 passes for 89 yards. He was so efficient, playing under pressure and in a massive hurry, the Sooners faced only two third downs in those two possessions. Jones completed passes to convert both.
Jones was not playing with Dom Whaley and Ryan Broyles. Jones’ tailback for the initial series was fourth-team freshamn Brandon Williams. Jones completed passes to Dejuan Miller twice, Trey Franks twice, Brennan Clay twice and Trent Ratterree. Only two completions to Reynolds could be considered caught by Jones reliables.
Both OU drives ended with Blake Bell touchdowns, but make no mistake, the Sooners clawed back in this game because of Jones’ cool presence. Before Adam Shead’s false-start penalty, did anyone doubt that OU’s two-point wouldn’t work. The Sooners were on the verge of one of the great comebacks in their history.
Then Griffin stole the thunder.
Jones completed 36 of 51 passes for 447 yards. He threw a costly interception on the third play of the fourth quarter that put the Sooners in a big hole. Baylor led 31-24, and four players after the pick, it was 38-24. Jones made a poor throw.
But otherwise, Jones was great. His mobility might have been better than we’ve ever seen. A few times, Jones stepped up in the pocket to make quality throws. He also made a couple of throws on the run. Even scrambled for an 11-yard gain.
Jones’ Heisman Trophy hopes are long gone. Robert Griffin’s are alive and well.
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Post by buffhomer on Nov 21, 2011 20:36:44 GMT -7
It was nice to see Landry move around some in the backfield, even put a hit on a guy once he was flushed out of the pocket. Still, OU's defense isn't up to par with their offense. No fault of Landry, too bad he is vilified by so many for any loss they have. RGIII is phenomenal too, no doubting that.
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Post by GoDogs on Nov 21, 2011 22:04:15 GMT -7
ESPN.com: Football Sunday, November 20, 2011
OU secondary flunks vs. Griffin III, Bears ________________________________________ By Jake Trotter SoonerNation
WACO, Texas -- Oklahoma's defense was sliced and diced by Baylor's Robert Griffin III, who had 551 yards of total offense. Jake Trotter grades the Sooners in their 45-38 loss to the Bears.
Quarterbacks: A Despite playing without favorite target Ryan Broyles, Landry Jones gave OU every chance to win the game. Outside a critical fourth quarter interception, he was on target, especially when the Sooners needed it. He converted six third downs with completions, and would have converted seven had Kenny Stills not dropped the pass. Jones also led OU to a pair of fourth quarter touchdowns to tie the game. On those drives, he completed nine of 11 passes for 97 yards, with one of the incompletions being a Dejuan Miller drop. Jones finished the game completing 36 of 51 passes for 447 yards. Factor in what Blake Bell did out of the Belldozer formation (five carries, four touchdowns), and the Sooners got everything they could have hoped for out of their quarterbacks. Jones and Bell came to play.
Running backs: A- After rushing for just one yard in the first quarter, Roy Finch and the OU ground game got it going the rest of the night. Finch finished with 95 yards rushing and averaged 5.6 yards per carry. Brandon Williams and Blake Bell added 40 yards on eight carries, and Trey Millard rumbled for a five-yard touchdown.
Receivers: C+ The wideouts played well at times without Ryan Broyles. But not well enough. Jaz Reynolds (seven catches, 114 yards) and Kenny Stills (six catches, 75 yards), Kameel Jackson (two catches, 24 yards), Trey Franks (three catches, 44 yards), Dejuan Miller (two catches, 22 yards) and tight end James Hanna (four catches, 90 yards) were all productive. But Reynolds, Stills and Miller each had critical drops, and Trey Franks fumbled the ball away on a promising drive.
Offensive line: B+ The Sooners imposed their will out of the Belldozer formation, which Baylor had no answer for. OU ran the Belldozer six times, leading to five touchdowns and a fourth-down conversion. The offensive line was a big reason for the staggering production. The group, however, did allow Baylor nose guard Nicolas Jean-Baptiste to bust through the middle and sack Landry Jones twice.
Defensive line: C+ Early on, the Sooners did a good job of getting pressure on Robert Griffin III while containing him in the pocket. But after Ronnell Lewis left the game with an MCL knee sprain, the pressure and containment began to wane, especially on the final drive when Griffin twice ran wild for big gains. The Sooners did a decent job against Baylor's ground game, and David King turned Griffin back on a critical fourth-and-one in the third quarter.
Linebackers: C+ Tom Wort and Corey Nelson had solid games, each totaling a team-high nine tackles. The two also did a decent job of spying on Griffin on obvious pass downs. But the linebackers also gave up some plays in the pass, and didn't do much to help out a secondary that was on its heels all night.
Secondary: F The worst performance by an OU secondary in years. The damage could have been worse, too. An 80-yard touchdown was called back on a questionable holding call on Baylor's second play from scrimmage. Later, Robert Griffin III overthrew a wide-open receiver for what would have been an 85-yard touchdown. Javon Harris accounted for several of those big plays, but he wasn't the only one to blame. He wasn't even on the field for that final drive, when Baylor went 80 yards in under a minute capped by Robert Griffin touchdown pass that sailed between Demontre Hurst and Sam Proctor, who had replaced Harris. Cornerback Jamell Fleming also gave up a couple of big plays in the pass. Most troubling, despite giving up so many big plays, the secondary didn't come up with a single turnover the entire night. Dismal collective performance.
Special teams: A The Sooners are quickly becoming a solid unit on special teams. Trey Franks had several spirited kickoff returns and Kenny Stills was solid filling in for Ryan Broyles on punt returns. Michael Hunnicutt was also tremendous, nailing a 47-yard field goal in the first quarter. He also was perfect on extra points, including a pressure-packed attempt from the 7-yard line after a false start that tied the game with under a minute to play.
Jake Trotter covers University of Oklahoma football for SoonerNation. He can be reached at trotterjake@gmail.com. Submit questions to his mailbag and look for answers every Friday. Follow SoonerNation's coverage on Twitter and Facebook.
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Post by nmsooner80 on Nov 22, 2011 12:22:32 GMT -7
I am thoroughly disgusted with some of the "Sooner Nation." Keep in mind that it's far from a majority; although it might seem that way at the moment that they're all piling on Landry. Heck, this kind of knee-jerk behavior isn't limited to OU fans. In Albuquerque, back in the late 1990's, one Kenny Thomas was so villified by the outspoken minority, that he left UNM thinking that people hated him. And all he did was win 104 career games, set several records, and go in the first round of the NBA Draft in '99. Yet all you heard in his last two years was, "Thomas sucks!" And, it also included these little "pearls of wisdom" that he wasn't even worthy of starting, was "the third-best big man on the team", was a "loser," etc. It didn't help any that the two main basketball writers catered to that crowd. But they were all dead-wrong, too. I also remember, even as much of a geezer as I am, when Sports Illustrated sent a writer to three big college games in the same weekend, but didn't overlap, back in 1973. This was OU-Nebraska in Norman, LSU-Alabama in Baton Rouge, and Michigan-Ohio State at Michigan. The Michigan-Ohio State game ended in a 10-10 tie, in large part to Michigan's inability to make a clutch field goal in those days (OU crushed NU, and I was there; and Bama handled LSU fairly easily; in the same weekend, in case anyone was wondering). The thing I still remember about the article on the three games was how two unnamed Michigan fans blamed their QB (Dennis Franklin) for the non-win. And a lot of that was because the guy was Black, and there were almost no Black QB's in the NFL - so it must have been his fault. That added to the absurdity of the situation (yep, even northerners could be racist back then). So irrationality isn't limited to the Landry-bashers - but they do still offend me something fierce.
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Post by Agent Orange on Nov 22, 2011 18:10:08 GMT -7
Right on Big Dog, Not sure its all on the secondary. "RGIII", (now that makes me ill), had all day, and night, and breakfast the next morning to throw the ball. I kinda like the nickname RG3, he made the OU Secondary look like R2D2, a bunch of rolling trash bins back there ha ha.
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Post by nmsooner80 on Nov 23, 2011 10:20:11 GMT -7
The numbers: 11,712 and 92
That's Landry's career passing yardage and total number of TD passes in his college career.
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Post by pbjelly on Nov 23, 2011 17:04:38 GMT -7
Secondary: F The worst performance by an OU secondary in years.
Shouldn't this of said in weeks. Tech did a number on that secondary as well.
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Post by nmsooner80 on Nov 30, 2011 10:07:46 GMT -7
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